Rev. 14 Nov. 1999, Gen. 653

John Grave (1) married Elizabeth Atkinson on 6 June 1658 in Crosthwaite, Cumberland, England. All their children were baptized in Crosthwaite, according to the IGI.

A search was made in the IGI for possible parents of John. Possibilities found and the baptism date (all in Crosthwaite) for their son named John are below.

30 April 1620 Humphrey Grave and Anne

17 Feb. 1620 John Grave and Elizabeth

1 Nov. 1620 William Grave and Anne

13 July 1621 John Grave and Jenett

1 Dec. 1622 John Grave and Jane Birkett (m. 23 Jan. 1615)

24 Oct. 1624 Richard Grave and Margarett

15 March 1624 Robert Grave and Katherine

30 March 1626 John Grave and Ellinor

3 Dec. 1626 Robert Grave and Frances

29 May 1631 John Grave and Jennett (m. 10 June 1627)

8 Nov. 1637 Danyell Grave and Anne

9 Sept. 1638 John Grave and Elizabeth

14 Jan. 1638 Richard Grave and Issabell

26 Sept. 1640 John Grave and Elizabeth Wilkinson (m. 24 Aug. 1634)

6 Aug. 1640 Robert Grave and Anne Kitchinge

Children - Grave

2. Ann Grave, bapt. 18 July 1669.

+3. Richard Grave, bapt. 1 Sept. 1675, m. Sarah Allison, 22 April 1697.

CHILDREN OF JOHN GRAVE (1) AND ELIZABETH ATKINSON

Richard Grave (3) was baptized 1 Sept. 1675 in Crosthwaite, Cumberland. He married Elizabeth Atkinson on 22 April 1697 in Crosthwaite. All their children were baptized in Crosthwaite.

Children - Grave

4. Richard Grave, bapt. 26 Feb. 1698.

5. Ann Grave, bapt. 4 March 1701.

6. Sarah Grave, bapt. 4 June 1704.

7. John Grave, b. 14 Oct. 1712.

+8. Mary Grave, bapt. 29 June 1715, m. Thomas Ladyman, 25 Oct. 1735.

CHILDREN OF RICHARD GRAVE (3) AND ELIZABETH ATKINSON

Mary Grave (8) was born about 1715, and was baptized 29 June 1715 in Crosthwaite, Cumberland, England. She married Thomas Ladyman on 25 Oct. 1735 in Crosthwaite, Cumberland. He was buried 20 May 1791 at age 86 (born about 1705). Since one of their sons was buried in Hawkshead, Cumbria, it is possible they were from that area also. All their children were baptized in Crosthwaite.

The information about their children and the probable ancestors of Mary is from the IGI. Searching the IGI gave 3 possible parents for Mary Grave:

Mary Grave, bapt. 29 June 1715, Crosthwaite, dau. of Richard Grave and Sarah

Mary Grave, bapt. 26 Feb. 1717, Crosthwaite, dau. of James Grave and Elizabeth

Mary Grave, bapt. 5 Sept. 1717, Threlkeld, dau. of John Grave

Because the previous information was that Mary was born about 1715, Richard and Sarah were determined to be the parents.

It is likely that all the children listed below are for Mary and Thomas, since no other marriage was found in this time period for a Thomas Ladyman and Mary, and there is no overlapping of children's baptism dates (that would indicate 2 families having children in Crosthwaite at the same time).

It is likely that Mary was related to other Grave families from the Keswick area, including gen. 377 and gen. 686. (R-1)

Children - Ladyman

9. Isabel Ladyman, bapt. 5 Jan. 1736, no marriage in IGI.

10. Mary Ladyman, bapt. 5 Jan. 1736, no marriage in IGI. It is likely that Mary and Isabel were twins and died early.

11. Hannah Ladyman, bapt. 30 Nov. 1736, m. John Tyson, 5 Dec. 1762 (Crosthwaite).

+12. John Ladyman, bapt. 1 March 1739, m. Ann Walker, 18 April 1767.

13. Daniel Ladyman, bapt. 23 Sept. 1741, no marriage in IGI.

+14. Joseph Ladyman, bapt. 23 Sept. 1741, m. Jane Wren, 28 March 1769.

15. Thomas Ladyman, bapt. 25 Sept. 1743, no marriage in IGI.

16. Elizabeth Ladyman, bapt. 3 June 1746, no marriage in IGI.

17. Mary Ladyman, bapt. 6 Sept. 1748, no marriage in IGI.

18. George Ladyman, bapt. 31 March 1751, no marriage in IGI.

19. Thomas Ladyman, bapt. 22 Aug. 1753. This could be the one who m. Mary Wharton, 30 May 1797 in Crosthwaite.

+20. Ann Ladyman, bapt. 28 March 1756, m. Samuel Norman, 19 May 1782.

CHILDREN OF MARY GRAVE (8) AND THOMAS LADYMAN

John Ladyman (12) was baptized 1 March 1739 in Crosthwaite, Cumberland. He married Ann Walker on 18 April 1767 in Crosthwaite. All their children were baptized in Crosthwaite.

Children - Ladyman

21. Mally Ladyman, bapt. 14 May 1769.

22. Ann Ladyman, bapt. 16 June 1771.

23. John Ladyman, bapt. 6 Oct. 1776.

Joseph Ladyman (14) was baptized 23 Sept. 1741 in Crosthwaite, Cumberland. He married Jane Wren on 28 March 1769 in Crosthwaite.

Children - Ladyman

24. Thomas Ladyman, bapt. 27 March 1770 (Crosthwaite).

Ann Ladyman (20) was baptized 28 March 1756 in Crosthwaite, Cumberland. She married Samuel Norman on 19 May 1782 in Crosthwaite.

Children - Norman

25. Sarah Norman, bapt. 14 Dec. 1782 (Crosthwaite).

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