GRAVES FAMILY BULLETIN
A
Free, Occasional, Online Summary of Items of Interest to Descendants of all
Families of Graves, Greaves, Grieves, Grave, and other spelling variations
Worldwide
Vol.
9, No. 4, April 4, 2007
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CONTENTS:
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General Comments
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June 2007 Reunion in Williamsburg, VA
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Help Still Needed for Williamsburg Reunion
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Other Help Needed
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Other Reunions
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Update on the John Grave Who Left a 1692 Will in Virginia
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Presentations by Ken Graves At Family History Conference In Franklin, MA
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Digitizing the Books of the World and How That Might Affect Us
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Follow-up to Name Change Article in Oct. 2006 Bulletin
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To Submit Material to this Bulletin & Other Things
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GENERAL
COMMENTS
Most
of the planning for the June reunion in Williamsburg is complete, and the
revised schedule with costs is now on the website. As part of the planning for the tour of the Eastern Shore of
Virginia in June, Sarah and I stopped on the way home from Florida to see the places
where Capt. Thomas Graves lived and worshipped. Other details about that reunion, other reunions, and other
exciting happenings are discussed in this issue of the Bulletin.
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JUNE
2007 REUNION IN WILLIAMSBURG, VA
There
is still time to register for the reunion in Williamsburg, VA on June
14-17. Big attractions are the history
of the area, the many events for the celebration of the 400th
anniversary of the first permanent English settlement in America, and the fact
that Capt. Thomas Graves arrived in Jamestown in 1608. However, we will be discussing all the
various Graves families at the reunion, and many of the families of Virginia
were related to families in New England and elsewhere. No matter which Graves or Greaves ancestor
you are descended from, this reunion should be helpful and rewarding. If you can possibly attend, you should.
If
you are thinking about attending, you may still be able to get a room at the
Patrick Henry Inn, or they will refer you to a nearby hotel. But don’t put it off any longer. See the reunion page of the GFA website for
details on how to contact the Inn, etc.
There
is now an updated registration form and schedule of events on the website. The new form has many more details of the
schedule and costs for the meals and tours.
Even if you have sent the preliminary registration form, you now need to
send the information on this final registration form and your payment to
reserve your place for the dinners and tours.
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HELP
STILL NEEDED FOR WILLIAMSBURG REUNION
We
plan to have entertainment and/or a speaker at the two dinners. The details of that have not been
finalized. What would you like to do or
hear? Please let me know and, even better,
volunteer to help provide the speaker or activity.
Musical entertainment at
June reunion
It
would be nice to have some musical entertainment at our June reunion in
Williamsburg. There are lots of Graves
family members who are musical. Can
anyone lead singing, provide a Graves soloist or musical group, etc? Major Richard P. (“Rich”) Graves will have
his guitar and bass there. How about
some of the rest of you?
Large Family Charts
I
want to provide large wall charts of descendants for the families that will be
at the June reunion. These charts can
easily be generated from genealogies in any of the common genealogy programs
such as Family Tree Maker. In the last
issue of this Bulletin, I asked for those of you with a large amount of
information in a genealogy program to contact me so I could generate the
charts. The response has been less than
overwhelming.
I
am now asking you to create your own charts that can be displayed on the
wall. We will have lots of time at the
reunion to exchange information and talk about our families, and large charts
that everyone can see and discuss will be very helpful. Let me know if you have any questions.
Feel
free to take any items to the June reunion that you think might be of interest to
others, such as photos, old documents, etc.
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OTHER
HELP NEEDED
Website Design: As a result of this
announcement in the previous issue of this Bulletin, we did get one volunteer
to help. However, more help is needed
if the new features that are needed are to be added in the near future. I know some of you have some expertise in
this area, and there are others who have children or other relatives who are
expert web designers. Because I don’t
have all the knowledge needed and I am having difficulty finding satisfactory
professional assistance, I would appreciate your help. The most important feature to be added to
the website is a “members only” section that would be password protected and
would contain databases and other information of special interest and benefit
to members. It would also allow members
to update their personal information and pay dues online.
Other
features to be added will include an online store where books, Graves/Greaves
products, etc. can be purchased.
If
you have the expertise and the willingness to assist with some of this, please
let me know.
Publicity and Promotion: Getting the goals and
activities of the Graves Family Association mentioned in magazines and
newspapers around the U.S. and elsewhere would help attract members and
support. If anyone has experience and
expertise in these areas and would like to help, please contact me.
Membership Recruitment: One of the tasks that
would be very helpful is contacting all genealogy and history societies in the
U.S., Canada, Australia, England, and other pertinent countries, and telling
them about what we are doing. This would include our reunions and trips, our
efforts to track down all Graves and Greaves descendants, gather their family
information, get them to participate in the DNA study, etc. Another task could be contacting all people
of our surname in an area and talking to them about meeting, sharing family
information, etc., preferably by phone and personal contact rather than by
mail.
I would like to develop a complete list of all
immigrants to Virginia, with references for where they are mentioned (such as
the will in the preceding article).
Please let me know if you can help, or send me your lists.
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OTHER
REUNIONS
Information
about the following GFA reunions is also on our website.
Saturday & Sunday, June 23-24, 2007 - Reunion for all Graves
and Greaves families, Frankfort, KY, at the Hampton Inn, 1310 U.S. 127
South. Saturday, Registration 1-4 PM,
and Meet, Greet and Share 1-8 PM.
Sunday, 9 AM-3:30 PM. Ken Graves
will be speaking on Sunday, and will probably be there on Saturday evening
also.
To
help with this, to let them know you want to attend, or for more information,
please contact Jim
Graves at jwgravesI@aol.com
(or call 502-347-0967), or Mary
Lou Watkins at gwatk12085@aol.com
(or call 859-846-4087). They would especially appreciate
your help in contacting your cousins and other Graves descendants about
attending.
Friday & Saturday, July 27-28 2007, Inaugural meeting of the
GFA Southwest Chapter, Clarion Hotel, Waco, TX, for all Graves/Greaves
descendants. Registration and reception
Friday afternoon, and dinner and get-together Friday evening. On Saturday, there will be meetings, lunch,
and discussions from about 8:30 a.m. until about 4:30 p.m. For information and to help, contact Ron Graves at gravesronn@cs.com.
March 2008 - Reunion for all Graves and Greaves families,
probably in Auburn, AL (but possibly in Montgomery or Birmingham area). Anyone
who would like to help organize this or who might like to attend, please
contact Dick Graves at grichardl@bellsouth.net.
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UPDATE
ON THE JOHN GRAVE WHO LEFT A 1692 WILL IN VIRGINIA
Karen Chilton Beverly, descended from Capt.
Thomas Graves of VA (genealogy 169), recently told me about a reference to a
will in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury (England) for the “will of John
Grave of Virginia, North America”. The
will was dated 24 September 1692. I
ordered a copy of the will and have put it on the GFA website. You can see it by going to the website, scrolling
down to the “What’s New” section, and clicking on the link.
It
was originally thought that once the will was transcribed, it might be for
someone descended from Capt. Thomas Graves (genealogy 169). Most of the will
has now been transcribed by Karen Beverly, along with another record that shows
that John Grave was a Quaker and probably lived in Isle of Wight Co., VA. Can
you complete the missing pieces of the transcription and help find what family
he was part of?
As
explained in the commentary on the website, it appears that John Grave may have
been a fabric merchant (a draper). Two nephews, Peter Grave and Walter Potter,
are mentioned in his will, but no wife or children are mentioned. It is
interesting that his will seems to differentiate between the surname Grave and
Grieves, but no mention is made of the spelling Graves.
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PRESENTATIONS
BY KEN GRAVES AT FAMILY HISTORY CONFERENCE IN FRANKLIN, MA
Ken Graves will be making two presentations at the
2007 Franklin Family History Conference on Saturday, April 21, in Franklin,
Massachusetts. One presentation will be
about using DNA for genealogy, and the other will be about the benefits of
family associations. For more
information or to register for the conference, go to www.fredwild.com/FamilyHistory2007.
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DIGITIZING
THE BOOKS OF THE WORLD AND HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT US
There
was an interesting article in the New
York Times Magazine about this subject.
In addition to talking about how the digitizing of all media, especially
books, is dramatically changing our lives, our culture, and the business models
of our society, there are some interesting implications for genealogy,
including Graves/Greaves genealogy.
Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia that is contributed to by its users
is one example of the value of digitizing information and making it
available. Links and tags may transform
digitized writing as we have known it, making it much more valuable to all of
us. On the Graves Family Association
website, I would like to use wikis with links and tags to increase the value of
genealogies, allowing everyone to update, correct, and share information. My question is, how can that be done? Let me have your input.
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FOLLOWUP
TO NAME CHANGE ARTICLE IN OCT. 2006 BULLETIN
In
the Oct. 29, 2006 issue of this Bulletin (vol. 8, no. 9) was an article titled
“Name Change from MacGregor to Grierson to Grieve to Greaves”. The discussion was based on an article in Heraldry
of Canada, Sept. 1998, by Dr. Kevin W. Greaves. In a response, he wrote the following.
I am a retired physician born in Barbados to
a Barbadian father and a Canadian mother. On my father's side, some of the
family (mixed English and Scots) had lived in the island since 1639, although
the Greaves line were relative latecomers, arriving from Scotland in the late
1700's. My interest in heraldry stems from my membership in the Royal Heraldry
Society of Canada, of which I have recently retired as president.
The
article's intent was to show the way in which genealogy and heraldry could be
linked and could help one another. The changes of surname were an interesting
but secondary focus of the detective tale described in the piece. Speaking of
the Griersons of Lag, your synopsis of the article says simply that "...
about 1680, the name of one branch of the family became Grieve", but does
not explain further, probably because that element of the story was contained
in a page illustrating the heraldry of the various families, not in the main text
of the article. Actually however, this is a fascinating piece of the puzzle,
since the step from Grierson to Grieve seems a bit far-fetched. My first
impression was that the change arose from inadvertence. Burke indicates that
for two or three generations, some of the Griersons dropped the
"-son" and were known simply as Grier, but does not specify when this
occurred. Given the similarity between Grier and Grieve -- especially in
handwriting -- it seemed at least plausible that the change could have occurred
through a clerk's mistranscription. That may still be the correct
interpretation. However, the discovery of a Robert Grieve (bapt. 1657) born to
a Thomas Grierson and a Janet (or Jonet) Grieve puts a different light on the
story. The assumption of the mother's surname strongly suggests that the mother
was an heiress (i.e. had no brothers) and that the son, under Scottish law,
took the mother's surname in order to inherit. This, then, rather than the
similarity of names, appeared to be the cause of the change of surname.
This
is bolstered by the heraldic facts. When two of Robert's great-grandchildren
(both Grieveses) petitioned for arms in the 1770's, the court of the Lord Lyon
recognized (in the text of the letters patent) their descent from the Griersons
of Lag and granted them shields that were remarkably similar to those of the
senior Grierson line -- the only change being a transposal of the colours, plus
the usual Scottish borders for cadency. The crest (the object that sits on top
of the shield) granted to the two brothers was, however, not the traditional
Grierson crest (a fetterlock or shackle) but a mailed arm holding a dagger,
presumably recognizing the change of surname. I have no evidence for the origin
of that crest (the one used by my own great-grandfather), but suspect it may
have been one associated with the Grieve family prior to the Grierson/ Grieve
marriage.
I
would be most interested if any of your correspondents could throw any light on
this matter.
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